Barley Fodder Grow Trays Now For Sale!

12-03-12 Fodder Production 005One of our many mantras we live by at Paca Pride Guest Ranch is that our definition of success comes from positioning others to become successful.  On that front we want others to succeed as much as we have with adding Barley micro-greens to your livestock’s diet!

In fact, we’ve heard so much positive feedback about our system from the DIY Fodder Producers we talk to,  that we’ve worked out a deal to start selling Grow Tray Kits to the general public!

While we have single trays available for sale, the most bang for your buck comes from ordering either our 10-pack or our 20-pack where we’ve included a discount. Given that most DIY growers usually choose to have a minimum of 10 tray systems, a bulk rate is something we wanted to be able to offer.

11-27-12 Barley Fodder Production System 026These trays are ideally suited to the various requirements for growing Barley Fodder mats(or other grains too! Wheat is 2nd most popular).

Each tray is capable of producing a 25-30lb mat from a seed rate of 5lbs of grain.  Higher seeds rates will produce heavier mats, but we have found that a seed rate of 5lbs per tray, gives us a manageable 25lb-30lb mat to handle.

12-03-12 Fodder Production 009The grow tray includes raised bottom sections that allow the water to drain off into the lower channels assuring excellent water drainage and flow.  The channels direct the runoff to the teal drain (left side in photo at top) which is level with the channels, and slightly lower than the raised sections of the tray.

Along with the main teal drain, the tray also includes an overflow drain. This second drain might be questionable by some until seeing it in action on 12-03-12 Fodder Production 012the more mature grow trays with root mats that fill the tray and slow down the flow of water to the main drain.

Both drains have easily removable caps that prevent the actual grain from slipping down the drain. As the root mats grow, the drain caps prevent the roots from completely backing up the water in the tray. At harvest, the drain cap is removed from the root mat, and tapped free of roots, then the tray is washed and readied for the next grow cycle.

Drainage is a crucial function in producing fodder mats. Trays with small drain holes get easily clogged by roots as well as the starchy runoff produced by the growing sprouts. Look for grow trays that feature good drainage to assure consistent production over time.

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Good, solid, grow trays are a necessary investment to a well running fodder system. You will want to look for trays that are also durable over the long haul.  Our grow trays are a heavy duty plastic that was meant for commercial growing operations. They are very durable trays and will last quite a long time!

Tray size is also another very important characteristic to look for when designing a DIY system. You’ll want to avoid smaller trays that have limits in the size mats they can produce, because as your production goals go up, this will translate into the handling of many small trays and mean more work and effort in harvesting, cleaning, and re-seeding your trays, spending more time in the fodder room.  Too large a tray translates into fodder mats which can become clumsy and unruly to manage. Our grow trays minimize the daily chore in the fodder room by offering the manageability that comes along with a reduction in the individual trays being used to produced nicely sized, manageable fodder mats.

These grow trays measure: Inside dimensions – 13” Wide x 40” Long x 3” Deep. Outside dimensions –  15″ x 42″

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The design of these trays, allow them to sit level, without any tilting required, on a grow shelf of your choosing.  With the drains at one end of the tray, you can create a DIY system that places the drains over the shelf edge and positioned over a gutter system to direct your runoff to the drain.

For the DIY Fodder producer, these grow trays make a great investment! You build the shelves to support the trays, provide water on a timer to each tray using PVC or garden irrigation supplies you can find at your local hardware store, and provide the gutter drainage to direct the runoff to your drain. The addition of some daylight rated fluorescent lights on a timer will help green up any sprouts you grow.

11-27-12 Barley Fodder Production System 010We can ship these trays anywhere within the continental US.

You can send a purchase request to us via email at Info@PacaPride.com for a price quote.

(Be sure to include where the trays will be shipped, for a shipping quote.)

You can also call us to place an order by phone at 360-691-3395.

For all orders we accept Mastercard or VISA via phone.

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83 Responses to Barley Fodder Grow Trays Now For Sale!

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  4. Randy Greene says:

    I was wondering how much your fodder trays cost?

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  6. Can you let me know what trays cost also, and how long and what concentration do you do the bleach soak, im just starting and having a little mold trouble

  7. jeff petty says:

    your trays look great. I have designed a tray that is nowhere near what you’ve developed and would like to optimize my efforts Thankyou Jeff

  8. douglas says:

    Nice trays but we need much much smaller ones. say 5 1/2 inch by 8 inch. we have 3 rabbits and no need for larger trays.

    • David says:

      For such a micro-fodder system, you can simply try using seedling propagation trays from a nursery supply. But, primarily, most fodder producers are going for much larger daily production goals. There really isn’t a flood and drain tray on the market at a smaller size.

  9. Munene says:

    How much do the trays cost. Can you ship to Kenya, Africa?

  10. flo krohn says:

    do you ship to canada?

  11. Lisa Moad says:

    Please send info on the 10 tray and 20 tray sets. We have 20 alpaca, 8 goats, 3 horses and 3 minis. I feel the 20 is a better choice for us so we have room to grow.

  12. Sandy Dieterich says:

    May I ask how far apart your shelves are? How much space if you rebuilt your system, would you prefer your shelves to be spaced. I’m thinking of air flow as well as light penetration. From the pictures it looks as though you have spaced about 12 inches. I have sent an email for a price quote for the 10 and 20 count quantity orders. Thanks so much. I’ve been following your progress for over a year now. Thanks for sharing.

    Sandy

  13. Chad Myers says:

    I was wondering how much the trays are and how many I might need to feed 20 meat goats. Thanks chad

  14. Cheri Seiler says:

    How much time does it take to produce enough for 50 alpaca and what would the start up cost be.

    • David says:

      50 alpacas would be around approximately 4-5 trays harvesting 100-125lbs daily. (figure 2% per body weight of the herd for daily fodder goals) If I was producing such, the time would be around 25-30 minutes for me in my fodder room with my procedures.

      send an email to info @ pacapride . com and I’ll put together a quote and recommendatioons for system size for you.

  15. Mugambi says:

    Hi David, Thank you for sharing your insights through this blog. I am also from Kenya and I am keen to try out this technology with pigs…would barley sprout fodder be appropriate for pigs? Do the same rations you indicated above apply i.e. 2- 3% of pigs total body weight? Would I need to supplement the fodder with a source of protein…as well as minerals?

    • David says:

      I recommend speaking with your Vet for nutritional recommendations of using a wet feed for any livestock.
      That said, yes fodder can be used to feed pigs at the general rate of 2-3%. Fodder is great as a protein source, but you’d need to still add other items to their diet.

  16. Hi David,
    We are just starting to explore the option of fodder. We have 20 alpaca and little access to quality local hay source…so dry lot conditions much of the time. Please send a quote for your 10 tray and 20 tray system along with any recommendations for a new start up. I’m particularly concerned about where to set the system up…I’ve even seen where people set up in their home where the temp is 70 degrees year round…wondering about a garage or basement as we have no heated or cooled barn/green house. Thanks so much.

    • David says:

      Sent info to your email addy.

      Your concern is well placed about where to set up such a system.
      Climate control of the grow space is the utmost of importance in running a successful fodder operation that produces consistent and repeatable results.
      I do not recommend a greenhouse, in general, because it is harder to control such an environment. (especially if there are other plants growing in it already)

  17. Mary Juelke says:

    A friend of mine just had an alpaca die from fodder. Can you enlighten me as to what could have happened? Mold? chemicals?

    • David says:

      Animals, in general, cannot die from fodder. Barley fodder is simply grains that have been sprouted. The result is super healthy both for humans and animals.

      That said, there is probably more to the situation you described. One possibility I can think of is if such an animal was fed a diet of strictly fodder mats, then, there would be a deficiency in its diet. Fodder lacks fiber, hay provides this important component (so does natural forage). Feeding an animal a diet of only fodder is not a good strategy. They will not get the balanced diet required. It would be similar to a human that just ate sugar only. Their health would pay the price.

      Now, if the fodder mats were not grown and prepared correctly, and molds are present that produce mycotoxins, then over a period of time, this will cause a cummulative toxicity in the animal. This is one reason why it is most imperative to exert proper controls of the grow environment and it’s cleanliness. Fodder production is a sprouting application. It is an application done in a very dense, very short intensive grow cycle. If, in fact, a DIY fodder operation is poorly designed, and lacks certain controls, then, disease vectors are entirely possible.

      However, doing a proper root cause analysis in situations where an animal dies would most likely reveal that it is not the actual fodder that was the cause, but some other disease or toxin vector. A vet performing a necropsy is the next step towards determining what went wrong in such a situation. But as for fodder killing an animal, not a possibility.

      • Mary Juelke says:

        Thank you for your reply about the fodder. I will forward this information to my friend and CSU will let us know the outcome of the tests. We are thinking this animal was given something with mold and caused the animal to bloat and die. We believe that there was some neglect in other areas of care that contributed to this also.

      • David says:

        Certainly if attention is not paid to the operating parameters of growing fodder mats, essentially a sprouting application, then disease vectors can become readily present via molds. Mycotoxin vectors are the risk of a poorly operated fodder room. It is the main reason you’ll see much emphasis on controlling the grow environment temperature, humidity, and dedicated space for operation. It could be if there was general neglect for animal care, then that may also indicate some neglect for operating a fodder system without risk. It is important for all fodder producers to know the risks associated when fodder goes bad. I’ve published another article about what molds may come that I’d encourage you to also read.

  18. Mary Juelke says:

    I too would like to know about what I would need for a herd of 21 alpacas. Where to set it up. space needed. Price of set up.

    • David says:

      For determining your daily fodder production goal for alpacas (other ruminants tned to be similar) use a 2% calculation based upon your total herd livestock weight. For example, if 21 alpacas weighed a total of 2000lbs, then your daily goal for fodder production would become a minimum of 40 pounds daily.

      For a price quote on the grow trays, send an email request to info@pacapride . com
      You may also contact us at Paca Pride Guest Ranch via the contact information on our website at http://www.pacapride.com

  19. Mary Juelke says:

    Please send me the cost to stay at your day ranch. We are exploring moving to Washington with our pacas.

  20. Andrew says:

    based on your experience, how soon of a return will there be after the initial investment?

    • David says:

      For me, my return on investment came within the very first season of operation: cutting my hay use by half, eliminating the expense of pelleted grain rations (a processed food product for animals), and the increased health of my herd all meant a significantly lower feed bill. Given the size of my active system (18 trays active vs. the 30 tray capacity), and the fact that most of the fodder room was constructed via bartering and salvage, I had a quick return. In fact, given our experience, we already are increasing our herd size by 4 more animals here in the next couple of weeks.

  21. Conrad Mandsager says:

    We just tried a test with 7 trays (plastic trays purchased at Walmart) and it was a miserable failure. I used organic barley seed ordered through a local feed store. Trays were 24 x 36″ and I drilled drain holes in one end and set them on an angle to drain. Set this up in my basement under fluorescent lighting. Temp was 65 degrees. I soaked 5# of seed overnight in a bleach solution as you suggested for each tray. The germination was very poor — maybe 10%?? The remaining seed then began to smell like it was fermenting and then I began to see mold on it. After 10 days since there was not enough to feed and I was seeing the mold, I moved the whole thing outside on my deck. Seemed to perk up a bit outside, but still smelled bad and was moldy so I threw it all away this morning. My wife thinks I layered it in too thick (1/2″), but I think I got some bad seed. Any ideas as to where I went wrong?

    • David says:

      I’ve got several ideas as to what went wrong. But first let’s talk about determining seed “viability”, so as to be able to rule out the possibility that your seed is actually bad. To do a viability test, take 100 grain seeds, random sample from what you wish tested. Place a few wet paper towels flat in a gallon sized zip-loc bag, then place the grain seeds on top of that and seal the bag shut with a slight air pocket so that the seeds are sitting on the wet towel with an air space above them. Lay the bag flat in a warm spot and watch it over the next 2 days. The seeds will germinate. At the 2 day mark (48 hours) count how many seeds germinated and how many did not. Look for a little white dot at the end of the seed. If you are unsure, you can add another day to the germinating until you can identify root hairs. The number of seeds out of 100 that germinated will be the approximate viability percentage for that batch of seed.

      Now, my guess is that it is not your seed that is bad, but something within your approach during this “proof of concept”. More than likely, it will be the combination of poor drainage and overwatering.

      Bad smells are more an initial indication that your drainage is poor. A drilled hole approach to trays (whether done on one end and tilted, or drilled all across the bottom of a tray) doesn’t drain the starchy solutes out of the tray very well. Upon germination, enzymes work to change starches into proteins. The result is a rich runoff of starchy solutes that are gel-like in consistency. These are easily trapped in trays with drilled holes as the holes are usually the size that allows water to run through, but not the grain; unfortunately that means the hole is still too small to effectively get those starchy solutes out. Accumulation of them in the tray inhibits further germination and is a toehold for fermentation by yeasts to start. When fermentation starts, it’ll smell like beer or bread rising at first, but then bacteria are activated and it turns septic smelling really fast. (Most people trying to create a fodder system by retrofitting flat bottom plastic trays in this manner have a much more difficult time managing their system. It can be done, but in my personal experience during trials doing the same, there are more hurdles to overcome.)

      Another factor could be overwatering. In proof of concept approaches, like yours, this becomes very easy to do, and is also very easy to avoid; but again, it is entirely contingent upon having good drainage as well. Only water such that your seeds are not drying out. If presoaking your seed, instead of watering for the first day after spreading in the tray, simply use a cover on the tray to keep the moisture that the seed soaked up in the tray. Water after the day 2 mark. Then start watering when you see root hairs visible. If your seed seems to be drying out, try using a spray bottle to slightly moisten the tops of your seed. Be sure to spread your seed in such trays thinner rather than thicker: 1/4″-1/2″ max.

      Finally a note about pre-soaking. There is a direct correlation between the ambient room temp and how long you can soak your seed. I soak mine for a 24 hour period, but it is in a colder room (between 60-65F). If my room starts getting warmer, around 70F, then you need to drop that pre-soak down, perhaps 12 hours. If it is really warm, then a 4 hour soak could be enough. It’s like making a bowl of oatmeal: if you use cold water it’ll take a long time to reach the consistency desired, but boiling water has it there within a minute. If you are over-soaking your seed for too long a period given ambient room temps (and thus the water temp in the bucket), then you’ll be inhibiting germination rates. Even though you stated that your temp is at 65F, it can vary around the room as much as 5-10 degrees in spots. So, try a shorter soak.

  22. Conrad Mandsager says:

    Thanks for your comments. It seems that I made mistakes on multiple levels. I will set up another test. How much are your trays?

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  24. Cyndi says:

    Hi David, Thank you for sharing your insights. I too am just getting started. I am concerned about the initial soak being in bleach water. Isn’t that water bleach and all absorbed into the grain? Do you know if you can use vinegar instead of bleach and if so what the ratio would be? Please give me a quote on 20 trays. Are the drain holes already drilled?
    Thank you

    • David says:

      Hi Cyndi,
      A lot of thought and research went into the decision to use bleach for the pre-soak. I am satisfied that it is the best approach for pre-treatment and sanitizing grain seed. Other options have been used by other DIY fodder producers, including vinegar or H2O2, but I find chlorine bleach is still the top of the list. Here’s why…

      Bleach is a highly unstable and highly reactive substance that breaks down rather quickly in water. In sprouting applications for humans (like the sprouts you see in the grocery store) all those seeds are pre-treated using chlorine bleach. In practically every dairy application chlorine bleach is a requirement for all sanitizing. The good thing about it is that when you are using just bleach and water during the pre-soak, the bleach does not carry through to the grow cycle. This is important because if used only during the pre-treatment, prior to the grow cycle (i.e. not using chlorine as part of regular watering), then the fodder produced still qualifies for organic certification.

      The worry around bleach comes from when we combine it with other substances, like soaps or detergents, then we get the chemical reaction that produces volatile organic compounds (VOC’s) and those are very dangerous and impact the environment in a negative manner.

      From my research, I am satisfied that once the grain is placed in the grow tray, they are washed enough from the watering cycles that there is no bleach contained in the sprout. In fact, when the seed is spread in the grow tray, the chlorine in the water has already broken down quite a bit. I also do not believe that bleach is absorbed into the actual grain itself as this would impede its germination. With the little amount we use, 1 tablespoon per gallon of water, any risk is far outweighed by the sanitization benefits gained. Chlorine is well proven out with a very long track record of safety when used in this manner.

      (I’ll send a tray quote to your email address)

  25. Samuel says:

    Where do you buy your trays? Also where do you buy your barley?
    What are the options for bin sizes?

    • David says:

      We sell the grow trays we use. I’ll send a quote and further links to your email address.

      Our barley seed is sourced regionally through feed and seed suppliers in MT Vernon, WA. We recommend contacting your local University Extension Agent for finding seed sources in your area.

  26. Samuel says:

    Also can I buy trays that are not set up with drains?
    Thanks

    • David says:

      The grow trays can be purchased without the drain fittings. When they are ordered with the trays, they do require installation by drilling the preformed location in the tray with a 1″ drill auger hole bit. The trays are vacuum molded plastic and the drain locations are further recessed in the tray.

  27. Brenda says:

    Impressive! This is my first attempt at growing and serving fodder — I’m learning as I go. It is very refreshing to read other’s stories. I am very interested in your trays, just a bit afraid they are too big for my handful of animals. Please do send me information. Thanks so for sharing and teachng.

  28. clive long says:

    i am looking for 96 trays how long and wide are the trays and what price

  29. Brenda says:

    Thank you for all the great information/experience you have shared. I am just beginning to grow fodder for my small herd of goats and sheep (think total 7). Wondering about your trays, seems they would be too large for my small set-up, but someday this spring all mammas (5) will have little ones. Please let me know the price. Thanks!

  30. Georgia says:

    Hi David, Thank you so much for sharing all of this valuable information. I have been reading a lot on the internet about people’s trials with fodder, your website is one of the more informative and helpful. Also, your replies to people’s questions in the comments are very helpful, thank you for taking the time to explain, I am benefiting. Currently I am preparing to purchase the equipment for my own small scale fodder operation. This will be for 20 laying hens and 3 growing bunnies to start with, I hope to increase to 20 laying hens, 6 adult rabbits and a couple lambs or a sheep this year. I know the need for fodder will fluctuate with the seasons, as the hens and sheep will be on pasture. Would you send me a quote for 10 trays? Coming from Ferndale, do you think shipping would be cheaper than the gas to drive to your ranch and back – if I were to pick up? I am still collecting information before making the decision on design, thank you!

    • David says:

      Hello Georgia,
      Thank you for the comment.
      I have forwarded a quote to your email address.
      All orders drop ship directly from the manufacturer upon placing an order, so they would ship right to you, typically within 7-10 business days of processing your order.

  31. Hello David.
    First five trays on the go today. will start another five tomorrow. Ended up with a faulty valve timer controller, which will be replaced next week. should be up to 25 trays per day by end of February
    Thanks for the help.
    Peter.

  32. David,

    I need 240 of your trays, would you please quote me on this amount? Also could you tell me how much the shipping would be to area code 27965?

    Thank you
    Tom Wisenbaker
    Carolina Horse Center
    Poplar Branch, NC 27965
    wisenbakertom@outlook.com

  33. Lee Gibby says:

    David,
    Please send me a quote on 10 trays. We have 70 does (rabbits).
    I’d like to harvest 2 trays per day, so I may need more than 10?
    Also do you have DYI plans available that have details on your shelving and watering systems.
    Best regards,
    Lee Gibby

  34. Frank says:

    Please quote 20 trays and 160 trays shipped to 82725. Also looking for DIY plans for fodder system. Thanks

  35. Carlos says:

    David,

    Such an informative site, I’m learning and learning. I’m very new at this and the more I read the more I want to start this line of work.
    Send me an email and point me in the right direction.
    Thank you

  36. Bruce Carson, in Rigby, Idaho 83442 says:

    I would like to set up a small system, to feed three horses, I was thinking about 14 trays with fittings.

  37. joseph says:

    Thanks for the generous and precise information on the hydroponics fodder system.Apart from the trays and the seeds, what are the other major items does one require for the entire fodder system.Also please send me the quote for 200 trays plus the shipping requirements in Kenya.

  38. joseph says:

    And just please to add a little bit , do you need to add nutrients solution to the water and for how long should the water be recycled back in to the system.

    • joseph says:

      David,according to your experience, how much tilting is required of the trays for an ideal flood & drain system

      • David says:

        Using our flood and drain approach with these specially designed trays requires NO tilting. The trays sit flat on a level shelf with the drain fittings hanging over the end of the shelf over a gutter system. NO TILT REQUIRED.

        The advantage to this is the establishment of a true flood zone across the entire length of the tray. That flood zone stays consistent during the grow cycle. This means that in later day’s growth, the root mat will lift the seed bed up, and out, of the flood zone. This gives you leverage over mold control.

    • David says:

      We do not recycle water in our system. We also do not use any nutrient solutions, just plain water. Each tray is watered individually from other trays and also drain separately. There is no shared water between trays.

  39. Carolina says:

    David,
    I sent you a request for a quote for the trays. I live in the desert and am wondering about the “climate control”. I was hoping to install the trays outdoors even though it gets pretty warm around here. What are your recommendations? Do I need to cover the trays to keep moisture in (our humidity is usually in the single digits year round)? Any info regarding growing fodder in the south west would be appreciated. Thanks!
    Carolina

    • David says:

      Email sent with quote.
      I recommend a dedicated space for a sprouting application. Not only for climate control, but also for cleanliness of the air and environment. Sprouting is possible under many conditions and circumstances, but some will require more hands-on to assure smooth operation than others. Sprouting in a warm environment requires cooling of the air or molds will become prevalent. Growing outside, or in a greenhouse, is not the best solution.

  40. joseph says:

    Please David i haven’t relieved the quote you promised on my email.

  41. Hydrose says:

    Now much do the tray 100 nos cost can you hip to kerala cochin india

  42. joseph says:

    Hi David , i~m experiencing some flying small black insects hovering up and down the loaded trays especially at day 3 may be because of the smell coming out as a result of partial fermentation.Do you experience the same and if so, is there a repellant or something I can do about it.THANKS

    • David says:

      Try simply hanging a fly strip in your grow space. Fruit flies or tiny gnats are attracted to the starchy and fermenting conditions. It is also important to focus on cleanliness of a grow space along with isolation and containment of a grow system. A dedicated room for growing fodder is the best way to prevent unwanted elements from contaminating your grow space. Prevention is a much better strategy than treatment in most fodder problems. With tiny flies, cleaning your space, removing the trays that are infested, and hanging some sticky strips may be your solution.

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